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Any Water Meters that are CQC aware? - kblagron - 03-14-2025
I finally got a separate water meter for my pool autofill/irrigation that is separate from my main water line. I would like to monitor how much water i use for each. Is there a water meter that is CQC friendly that I could install and monitor?
RE: Any Water Meters that are CQC aware? - Spot - 03-17-2025
(03-14-2025, 09:40 PM)kblagron Wrote: I finally got a separate water meter for my pool autofill/irrigation that is separate from my main water line. I would like to monitor how much water i use for each. Is there a water meter that is CQC friendly that I could install and monitor?
There are some meters that output pulses that could be read, but there'd have to be software written to implement.
RE: Any Water Meters that are CQC aware? - kfly - 03-20-2025
I haven't see any that read the regular meter.
Is there a good one that Home Assistant uses? maybe zigbee or Z-Wave?
https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/energy/water/
RE: Any Water Meters that are CQC aware? - kblagron - 03-23-2025
(03-20-2025, 02:14 PM)kfly Wrote: I haven't see any that read the regular meter.
Is there a good one that Home Assistant uses? maybe zigbee or Z-Wave?
https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/energy/water/
For now, I didn't install a meter with my water piping changes. I did reconfigure valves so I can redirect the pool autofill and/or the sprinklers to either meter. In my city, they have gone to smart meters, so they know how much water you are using daily. Normally I don't like big brother watching, but they did alert me to a water heater that was leaking after a couple of days of continuous water use. Fortunately, it was leaking out the vent pan outside, and I was able to isolate and fix.
I may look at it again now that there are systems like Flume that just attach onto the pipe, .vs. an additional meter installation. I am not as concerned with the exact water amount as I am that something has changed (i.e. pool leak, etc.) Will think about it for a while, and let everyone know if I came up with a solution.
RE: Any Water Meters that are CQC aware? - kfly - 03-23-2025
(03-17-2025, 01:13 AM)Spot Wrote:(03-14-2025, 09:40 PM)kblagron Wrote: I finally got a separate water meter for my pool autofill/irrigation that is separate from my main water line. I would like to monitor how much water i use for each. Is there a water meter that is CQC friendly that I could install and monitor?
There are some meters that output pulses that could be read, but there'd have to be software written to implement.
(03-23-2025, 05:23 AM)kblagron Wrote:(03-20-2025, 02:14 PM)kfly Wrote: I haven't see any that read the regular meter.
Is there a good one that Home Assistant uses? maybe zigbee or Z-Wave?
https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/energy/water/
For now, I didn't install a meter with my water piping changes. I did reconfigure valves so I can redirect the pool autofill and/or the sprinklers to either meter. In my city, they have gone to smart meters, so they know how much water you are using daily. Normally I don't like big brother watching, but they did alert me to a water heater that was leaking after a couple of days of continuous water use. Fortunately, it was leaking out the vent pan outside, and I was able to isolate and fix.
I may look at it again now that there are systems like Flume that just attach onto the pipe, .vs. an additional meter installation. I am not as concerned with the exact water amount as I am that something has changed (i.e. pool leak, etc.) Will think about it for a while, and let everyone know if I came up with a solution.
I have a Neptune T-10 meter that seems to use rtl_433 to report to big brother.
https://community.home-assistant.io/t/reading-a-5-8-neptune-t-10-water-meter-with-a-qmc5883l/611754
https://community.home-assistant.io/t/help-with-mqtt-and-json-for-a-water-meter/649899
Probably could come up with something listening to the rtl signa...
but as you say, may be better to just pay a little more and get a Flume.
Flume2 seems to just rubber band to your meter...
https://flumewater.com/product/?gad_source=1
https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/flume/
Could probably add it to home assistant to be queried by the CQC home assistant driver kludge I made.
This is not very clear. So no fee?? or fee.
For customers who purchase on Amazon or Flumewater.com there are no monthly fees. Flume users can view down-to-the-minute water usage details, access monthly budgets, utilize Flume’s leak detection and API, customizable budgets and usage alerts, Detail+ (your water use breakdown by the individual appliance), 15% off select professional repair services.
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RE: Any Water Meters that are CQC aware? - piloyguy - 03-28-2025
For what it's worth I have a water meter that outputs a pulse counter to my Brultech 1240 and bring it into CQC through there. I get GPM and total gallons.
-- I've also got a few Brultech GEM's but the cqc driver needs to be worked on for the pulse counters since it only brings in the pulse count and not the pulses over time so I can't do a conversion to GPM.
RE: Any Water Meters that are CQC aware? - kblagron - 03-31-2025
(03-28-2025, 09:33 PM)piloyguy Wrote: For what it's worth I have a water meter that outputs a pulse counter to my Brultech 1240 and bring it into CQC through there. I get GPM and total gallons.Oh this may be perfect. I currently have a Brultech 1220, but could easily upgrade to the 1240. The Brultech box I have now is directly behind the wall of the the two back flow devices where I can attach a pulse counter.
-- I've also got a few Brultech GEM's but the cqc driver needs to be worked on for the pulse counters since it only brings in the pulse count and not the pulses over time so I can't do a conversion to GPM.
I will look at the GEM as well. I may be able to update the driver if it was written as a Macro.
Any recommendations on meters/pulse counters?
RE: Any Water Meters that are CQC aware? - piloyguy - 03-31-2025
Mine is an Omega Engineering, Model FTB8007B-PT, has a reed switch output. Bought in 2011 and has worked since then, have it inline with my city water meter.
I think the GEM driver could be easy to modify since I think the packet sends a timestamp. I can do basic driver stuff but couldn't figure hot how to to the time/math calcs.